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I am not posting this to create a debate. The above should be clear enough. Since I'm not a Tribe employee I should not even be posting a topic here, but the purpose of this tribe is to help answer questions for Tribe users. The endless posts about nothing simply defeats the purpose of this tribe. You already have other tribes to play in.
Bruce
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I am not posting this to create a debate. The above should be clear enough. Since I'm not a Tribe employee I should not even be posting a topic here, but the purpose of this tribe is to help answer questions for Tribe users. The endless posts about nothing simply defeats the purpose of this tribe. You already have other tribes to play in.
Bruce
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Excuse me?
Thu, January 15, 2009 - 7:24 PMI do not take orders from anyone. Especially sexual stalkers and trolling devils. Even those who have been reinstated by the tribe powers that be when punitive measures should have been allowed to stand in order to send a clear message to the community.
In case you still don't understand what "no" means, please read me loud and clear:
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Re: Excuse me?
Thu, January 15, 2009 - 7:28 PMBesides, if tribe doesn't want anyone to respond, they shouldn't allow anyone to join the damn tribe or they should make a FAQ section without comment capabilities. -
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Re: Excuse me?
Thu, January 15, 2009 - 7:53 PMYou know what Bruce? I'm sorry I typed that. For all I know both TOU and others are lying about your stalking and threatening that tribe member. Still, it is pretty smarmy for you to come in here and try to act as some sort of pseudo-authority given the circumstances in which you were ejected from this community just as much as it's shitty for others who were reinstated to pick up where they left off in their trolling activities.
I can understand tribe.net allowing you to come back in a different guise as a second chance but reinstating your old profile and those of other known trollers and stalky-types after you'd all been deleted is like a slap in the face to the victims and sends a message to you and the other reinstated trolls/predators that borderline behavior will not only be tolerated but protected by the new management.
I am not one to sit silently when others are disparaged as most on here do in order to keep themselves from being targeted. Yes, most people on here sit silently or even join in when people are stalked and trolled. Most people are cowardly sheep. But unfortunately for you, not all of us.
You really have some kind of nerve coming back to the same profile you used to cause such pain. From the trolls who are here only to harm others, I'm not surprised. But in your case I would have expected you to at least have some respect for the person you hurt and start a different profile or just continue to maintain the alt you'd already been inhabiting. Or failing that, keep a low profile rather than spouting off in the FAQ tribe as if you were an upstanding and helpful member of the community.
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Re: Excuse me?
Fri, January 16, 2009 - 2:19 PMThe endless posts about nothing simply defeats the purpose of this tribe. You already have other tribes to play in.
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very interesting, i guess the moderator should step in and tell the troll whos driving things off topic to leave or shut up.
I'm still waiting for the adult conversation to start in response to my adult answers to tribes staff regarding their current self destructive
policies.
Maybe the people who are no ttribe staff could just sit on it until tribe staff shows up, so that my presentation to them is not interupted.
Seems like so little to ask for doesn't it?
Then again, its telling that every time somebody tries to discuss tribes trolling problem they get mobbed by trollers.
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Re: Excuse me?
Fri, January 16, 2009 - 2:21 PMYou know what Bruce? I'm sorry I typed that. For all I know both TOU and others are lying about your stalking and threatening that tribe member. Still, it is pretty smarmy for you to come in here and try to act as some sort of pseudo-authority given the circumstances in which you were ejected from this community just as much as it's shitty for others who were reinstated to pick up where they left off in their trolling activities.
I can understand tribe.net allowing you to come back in a different guise as a second chance but reinstating your old profile and those of other known trollers and stalky-types after you'd all been deleted is like a slap in the face to the victims and sends a message to you and the other reinstated trolls/predators that borderline behavior will not only be tolerated but protected by the new management.
I am not one to sit silently when others are disparaged as most on here do in order to keep themselves from being targeted. Yes, most people on here sit silently or even join in when people are stalked and trolled. Most people are cowardly sheep. But unfortunately for you, not all of us.
You really have some kind of nerve coming back to the same profile you used to cause such pain. From the trolls who are here only to harm others, I'm not surprised. But in your case I would have expected you to at least have some respect for the person you hurt and start a different profile or just continue to maintain the alt you'd already been inhabiting. Or failing that, keep a low profile rather than spouting off in the FAQ tribe as if you were an upstanding and helpful member of the community.
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What she said!
And triple!
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Re: The Purpose for this Tribe
Sat, January 17, 2009 - 4:14 AMThis post is just another example of Bruce stating the obvious as a pretext for him to kiss some more tribe.net ass.
Bruce, if you want to express your gratitude to tribe.net for letting you back on here inspite of howls of protests from people who alleged you were a criminal stalker, you should come right out and do so.
If you are forbidden from talking about it, as may be the case, then just move on.
But if you insist on flooding tribe.net with banal, pointless, state the obvious posts just as a pretext for more ass kissing, you can count on me to point it out. 'Cause this is comedy gold. -
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Re: The Purpose for this Tribe
Sat, January 17, 2009 - 4:43 AMstill by far the most effective method for getting rid of stalkers/trolls/people with no sense as to what is appropriate or interesting IS:
ignoring them..
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Re: The Purpose for this Tribe
Sat, January 17, 2009 - 4:52 AMWhat fun is ignoring them?
Almost never in the history of tribe has any tribe made a concerted, organized effort to ignore any given troll. It would work, but none do it.
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Sat, January 17, 2009 - 5:39 PMstill by far the most effective method for getting rid of stalkers/trolls/people with no sense as to what is appropriate or interesting IS:
ignoring them..
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thats only true if they aren't true ocd or etc. in which case ignoring them is futile.
its utterly hilarious when people rant this old tripe out. It sounds great and it makes a good line, but real world cause and effect and actual reality it ain't.
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Re: The Purpose for this Tribe
Sat, January 17, 2009 - 6:13 PMBut if you insist on flooding tribe.net with banal, pointless, state the obvious posts just as a pretext for more ass kissing, you can count on me to point it out. 'Cause this is comedy gold.
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Re: The Purpose for this Tribe
Sat, January 17, 2009 - 6:39 PMThe best part is PP doesn't realize that he's included in the statement he's LOLing at.
That, is also comedy gold.
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Re: The Purpose for this Tribe
Sat, January 17, 2009 - 6:44 PMThe best part is PP doesn't realize that he's included in the statement he's LOLing at.
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You would like to think so shitter, but i do set theory at the expert level.
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That, is also comedy gold.
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ha fookin ha ha.
somehow your delivery lacked comedic value. try a banana peel or sumthin.
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Re: The Purpose for this Tribe
Sat, January 17, 2009 - 8:52 PMYou are only an expert in your own opinion.
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This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.
I have always enjoyed Bruce's contributions.
Mon, January 26, 2009 - 6:01 PMThe stench of Bruce's hubris is matched only by the proportion of Shatter's ego in relation to his intelligence. Satan is proud of both men's contribution's herein.
I think I can straighten this all out in a few brief paragraphs:
First of all, why so many rules? We all flunked sixth grade a long time ago, why go back? Tribes mutate and grow. Enjoy the ride.
Tribe officials have stated in several threads that without exception every single case of misconduct reported to them that they have looked into revealed bad behavior on both sides, insinuating that anyone who's been trolled deserved the trolling or at least tried to defend themselves, causing tribe.net to find them just as guilty as their stalkers.
What does this mean regarding Citizen Bruce? I interpret that to mean that everyone involved in every skirmish is guilty including those who made accusations (unless they did not respond or in any way attempt to defend themselves) so the accused were rewarded with getting their profiles back.
The thinking seemed to be along the lines of: If all are guilty then those who were punished should be set free (i.e. reinstated) or all complainants should also be unsubscribed. Tribe.net probably did not want to lose 50% of its membership (even though fake-Satan is 25% of the 50%) so it brought all of the unsubbed back including your ass-hair Bruce all the way down to even the most insipid of trolls such as HelperBot, for whom Satan has reserved a very special place for on the short bus to Hell.
Tribe's philosophy makes the real Satan very happy because I like it when injustice prevails and stupidity runs free and people feel unsafe.
In short, tribe.net's official statement on the Bruce and fake Satan etc. unsubbing situations is that there are no real victims of trolling in any reported trollings that they've bothered to look into thus far because all were guilty of bad behavior and as a result, all trolls were reanimated. Fighting back = bad behavior. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
This gives Satan a big belly laugh and fills his heart with joy.
The real message here? Tribe at your own risk. Management will not be held responsible for sullied reputations or give a shit about roaming bands of trolls targeting good people.
You should not expect tribe.net to respond one way to your pet situation and another way to a situation you care nothing about such as that of Blue or others.
Just drop it already. Bruce is back and the party is just getting started. No rules except no rules! Create your own Satan or Bruce troll today! Fight fire with ire!
You heard it here second!!!
Good show, Crabby. Now come wrap those limbs around Satan and tell me all about your roots.
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Mon, January 26, 2009 - 6:06 PMoh yes and
WELCOME BACK BRUCE!!!!!
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Re: I have always enjoyed Bruce's contributions.
Mon, January 26, 2009 - 7:08 PMall trolls were reanimated. Fighting back = bad behavior. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
This gives Satan a big belly laugh and fills his heart with joy.
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lol.
blaming the victims doesn't mean they are actually guilty, but it is convenient if you are lazy and in charge.
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Come on down and see me sometime!
Tue, January 27, 2009 - 11:06 AMI wouldn't say those now in charge are lazy, just misguided. But ultimately kind and well-meaning.
Unfortunately, reanimating Bruce and the pack of Satans was a thoughtless move that hurt the new management's credibility and breathed fresh new death-life into the system's worst offenders, setting in motion a chain reaction that has wrought much gnashing of teeth and banging of threads.
The one true Satan loves that kind of shit.
But alas-- I'm needed in Afghanistan.
I wish you all bloody rainbows and marginal success in your endeavors.
Adieu.
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Re: I have always enjoyed Bruce's contributions.
Tue, January 27, 2009 - 1:05 PMThat is not a fair interpretation. What we are saying exactly is that in every case there has been SOMEONE on each side who's behavior was inappropriate. In some cases these partisans had nothing to do with the original conflict.
There are plenty of cases where one person's behavior toward another was clearly one-sided and unacceptable. Unfortunately, as the situation mutated and grew the follow-on attacks tended to make the perpetrator a victim of someone else's bad behavior - not necessarily the original victim - and fair moderation became impossible to ascertain given resource constraints.
Those who would interpret this as carte blanche are wrong and some may receive unpleasant surprises. We are careful to document egregious behavior. Should a victim choose to take advantage of applicable laws, they will have ample evidence to mount a case. While we hope we don't have to run taxing database queries in response to a discovery order too frequently, we can and our policies are intended to maximize the success of such an effort.
There are effective laws to protect people and good evidence makes it easier for them to achieve judicial remedies. Unsubbing users is extremely ineffective in managing bad behavior as there is no technical fix that would not completely change the nature of Tribe to prevent alts. Using all the tools at our disposal to block bad behavior would also exhaust the forensic tools available for piecing together the evidence of their crimes. -
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Gotchya.
Tue, January 27, 2009 - 1:50 PMThank you for the clarification. I knew you had it in you to fully express your motivations and reasoning rather than simply offering vague solutions and suggesting the victims leave the building.
Well said, Anonymous Tribe Thing.
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Re: Gotchya.
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